Crime Family

S02E09: THE CASES OF LEONA BRULE & LEAH ANDERSON (#MMIWG, PART III)

November 10, 2021 AJ, Katie & Stephanie Porter Season 2 Episode 9
Crime Family
S02E09: THE CASES OF LEONA BRULE & LEAH ANDERSON (#MMIWG, PART III)
Show Notes Transcript

There are hundreds of missing  and murdered Indigenous women and girls across Canada, and these are just some of their stories.

In part three of our Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls mini-series, we tell the stories of two different cases- Leona Brule and Leah Anderson.

Leona Brule, an 18-year-old woman from the Northwest Territories went missing in 1989 and in an unsolved case with very little information known, possibilies are endless. Could she have been met with foul play on route to Edmonton, Alberta to visit her boyfriend? Could she have been murdered before leaving the Northwest Territories? Is she still alive and living on the streets of Edmonton? Virtually nothing is known about what happened after contact with her family ceased and the only possible lead in this cold case comes in the form of a mysterious letter delivered to Leona's aunt after the disappearance. Is this a red herring or could it be a vital clue about what happened to Leona?

Leah Anderson was a 15-year-old girl who went missing on a cold January night in 2013 and turned up dead only days later in the small Northern community of God's Lake Narrows, Manitoba. Rumors about what could have happened ran rampant throughout the small town after it was discovered that the only roads into the community were closed the weekend of the murder- is someone in God's Lake Narrows responsible for Leah's murder?

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EPISODE RESOURCES:

Leona Brule:

"Stories of the Unsolved":
https://storiesoftheunsolved.com/?s=Leona+Brule+

CBC 'Missing and Murdered':
https://www.cbc.ca/missingandmurdered/mmiw/profiles/leona-mae-brule

"Doe Network.Org":
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/247dfnwt.html

http://www.justicefornativewomen.com/2016/08/leona-brule-missing-from-northwest.html

Leah Anderson:

http://www.justicefornativewomen.com/2016/02/the-unsolved-murder-of-leah-anderson.html

National Post Article:
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mounties-issue-plea-for-help-from-small-community-to-find-girls-killer

"Stories of the Unsolved":
https://storiesoftheunsolved.com/2021/02/25/the-murder-of-leah-anderson/

CBC 'Missing and Murdered':
https://www.cbc.ca/missingandmurdered/mmiw/profiles/leah-kendra-anderson

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That's also like really random too. Like if that wasn't Leona, like why would some random person send that to Leona's aunt? Like, it doesn't really make sense. 

There also were some theories that had come out about the case. Like she was picked up by someone who had like evil and malicious intentions while hitchhiking in Yellowknife or that she met with foul play while in Edmonton. During the weekend that Leah was murdered, the RCMP revealed that the killer would have been someone in the community.

Because the only way out was the ice roads. And those roads were closed that weekend, which meant it had to be somebody within God's Lake Narrows community. And according to Leah's cousin, Destiny, Steven was admitting to an unidentified woman that he had killed somebody, but he never mentioned who.

Hey, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Crime Family. So this is part three of our missing and murdered indigenous women series. So last week I did the Amber Tuccaro case, and Katie started us off in part one with the red river murders. So for part three, Steph is going to tell us the stories of two, um, different indigenous women and their cases and their stories.

So Steph, which, uh, which cases are you doing?

 The first story I'm going to tell you about is a woman named Leona Brule. And the second one is, uh, Leah Anderson. 

Okay. And I'm like, what was it about those cases that made you interested in wanting you wanted to cover them? 

Well, I wish I could do them all, but these two cases I chose because there isn't a whole lot of information out there. And I feel like these two women need their stories to be told. And because both of them are still unsolved today, I feel like justice needs to be done for these two women. And I feel like their families. Someone needs to know something about both of these cases. And I feel like me telling the story, maybe somebody might out there might know.

So I decided to do these two because they're similar cases, but they both, but they have different tragic outcomes.

 Yeah. And I think it's also important, like kind of going to what you said, like we wish we could cover them all. Um, but there is that website I will direct you guys to is cbc.ca/missing and murdered.

So this is basically the main site has like the database for many, if not all well definitely not all, but many of the missing and murdered indigenous women in Canada. So I definitely, we're going to put the link to that website in our show notes. So definitely go to that website, familiarize yourself with all of these cases and all of these women, because yeah, we can't cover all of them, obviously.

So we had to pick the ones that just piqued our interest, the ones that we wanted to cover but that doesn't mean that the other ones aren't important or any less important, cause obviously they are. And justice needs to be served for all of the, these women. So, um, yeah, just wanted to say that, but Steph you can take it away.

The first story I'm going to tell you about is about a woman named Leona Brule. Uh, she was born in 1970 in Fort Providence in the Northwest territories, and this is a really small Northern community and has only a population of 695 people. According to Leona's family, she was quite outgoing, full of life, full of love, and a very spirited person.

And she was also very protective of her siblings and her cousin. When Leona became a teenager, she like, like most teenagers, she wanted to have a more free life and she wanted to explore life outside of her small community. Uh, so she started to travel to Yellowknife quite often in Yellowknife. This is where her sister lived.

So she would travel to Yellowknife and back to Fort Providence quite a bit, but she'd always keep in contact with her family. When she was in Yellowknife, she had a babysitting job, like, like a live in nanny. She was so good with kids. Which is why she had this nanny job. Like I said, she would travel back and forth to Yellowknife and back to where she, her family, her parents lived in north and the Northwest territories.

And around the late, like the late 1980s, Leona started seeing this guy who lived in Edmonton. So she would often travel to Edmonton and traveled to Yellowknife. So she was frequently traveling and mostly on the go all the time. Because of such the remote places where she lives and she plus she didn't have a car she'd often hitchhike to Edmonton.

This boyfriend of Leona's they're unsure of his name. They never like her family never really knew much about him. She didn't really talk much about him so that was in the late 1980's when she met this man, it was about the last day that anybody seen Leona would have been about March 15th, 1989.

And this was a day that Leona said that she was going to Edmonton again, that you'd be back in a week. 

Yes. Sorry. This is just a note, like I was just curious. So I Google mapped, like the distance from Yellowknife, Northwest Territories to Edmonton. And it's about a 15 hour drive. So she was like, hitchhike.

That's crazy. It'd take 15 hours. That's a long time. I wonder if like she was like getting rides with multiple people. Um, like if they were just going like part of the way, then she would hitchhike the rest of the way. Or she would like hitchhike with one person, 15 hours. It's a long way. And it's just, just out of my own curiosity.

So I just wanted to say, put that in there, but like, so people know geographically, it is like 15 hours away, which is a long time.

 Also, if you think of it that like, she might've walked some of the way, like it does not guarantee she got to drive like the whole way. So like 15 hours is like the shortest time it would have taken her,if she got like a straight drive, but if she only planned to be gone for a week, it's almost like two days on both ends just traveling.

So she really only had like five days spent in the city. Anyway. That's just kind of like thinking about the trip. 

Yeah, it's also crazy too, that like no one really knew that the boyfriend was like going driving 15 hours to a new city in a different province. It's like, Weird. If the family doesn't even know who this person is, or even know his name at the very least, like that's kind of odd.

And like you said, they didn't really know. It seems like they shouldn't really know because they're looking a little bit about this case. Like his name has never been out there and it doesn't say anything about who this man was. So obviously the parents or her family didn't know much about him or maybe they do, it's just not released out to the public.

I don't know.

And maybe because she like would hitchhike from where her parents lived to where her sister lived, maybe they didn't think that her hitchhiking from Yellowknife to Edmonton was a big deal. Cause she was used to hitchhiking.

 But yeah, and like, and like I, and like I said, in the previous episode, like hitchhiking is a big, it's common just in the community anyway.

And people don't have cars and remote areas, you have to get to different places. 

So, and she was like 19 at the time. So maybe her parents like, she was an adult at the time. So maybe her parents just like, they knew, like how, how kind like kindhearted you, why? So maybe like they trusted her to get to where she needed to be.

Also, this is back in the eighties. So it wasn't, you know what you think about it now? Hitchhiking was probably a lot more safe back then or, or people just didn't know how dangerous, dangerous it was, because it wasn't like that. Which media out there about serial killers and things back then. Yeah. And also too, like, just because, like you said, obviously I can tell too, there's not a ton of information out there on this case.

So just because like, maybe the boyfriend's name's not out there doesn't mean that they didn't know who he was like, you know what I mean? Like there might be a lot of information too. That's just not out there because obviously the police aren't doing a full investigation. So maybe the family knew who he was like, I don't know.

It just might not be something worth noting. So I don't want to say that like, oh, it's weird that the parents don't know him. Like maybe they do. I don't know, but obviously it's not out there. Like he's not a suspect of didn't come.

 He would have been like one of the first suspects that would've talked to.

So maybe they just ruled him out and he's just like his, his name's not related at all to the case. 

Yeah Cause like, yeah, cause I just don't want to say that like, oh. No. I know, but maybe they do. It's just not out there. Yeah. 

That's a good point. Um, so yeah, like, so on March 15th, she said goodbye to her family and said that she'd be back in a week.

So a few weeks later, her family hadn't heard anything, but it never did register with them that she was missing or anything was wrong with her because they thought maybe like she was just having a good time and that she'd be back. And what really started to get them to worried is that those phone calls stopped.

Becoming more frequent and then they just stopped at all. Like they just stopped. So like, she was not in contact with her family after the few weeks after she went missing. So, which would make sense as why her family never reported her missing for a while. When the family did do open up a missing persons case, it was hard for the police to do a proper investigation because they had very little information to go.

The family didn't have a solid timeline of where her last whereabouts, were they didn't know what she was wearing at the time. They thought maybe she was with her boyfriend, but they didn't like, like AJ said earlier, like they might not have known who he really was. So they're just trying to piece together this missing persons case with very little information that they had at the time when she was just the, at the time of disappearance.

It was said that Leona was living this transient lifestyle, which in most cases is deemed like a high risk behavior. And this made her disappearance very suspicious. They also suspected that drugs and alcohol were being used. It's also likely that she was living on the streets in Edmonton because they know they, there was never like, she never gave like a address of where she was going in.

Edmonton. 

So maybe her, maybe her boyfriend was homeless too, or something...

 Maybe which would make sense that they couldn't track them down or they didn't really know anything about him because maybe they like, maybe he didn't like didn't have a home address or something. Yeah. The RCMP said that her family thought that they seen her in 1990, but unfortunately those sightings were never confirmed.

Which is why in most in her reports, her last known whereabouts was in 1989. There's also witnesses also came forward saying that they saw Leona, um, in Fort Fort McPherson, in the Northwest territories. This tip forced the police to travel to Fort McPherson, to find the woman that the witness say that looked like Leona.

But once they got there, they realized that this woman was not Leona. And unfortunately, the case was starting to go cold because there was no more leads and no more information about her whereabouts. But after her disappearance, the owner's aunt received a letter from Florida. And in that letter, there was a newspaper clipping of a weight loss program that said," Kathy, check this out" or something to that effect.

I think that's what it  was.

 Yeah, I think I said," Kathy, this will help you"..

 But like nothing else? 

Nope. 

That's super weird. And she didn't know who was from?

 That's also like really random too. Like if that wasn't Leona, like why would some random person send that to Leona's aunt?. Like it doesn't really make sense.. 

Well, because Kathy thought it might've been from Leona right?

At one point or something, because it didn't really know who it was fun, but like, why would it be from Leona, like missing for a long time? And it doesn't say anything, just sends a note, a newspaper clippings say this will help you, 

They, like describe it as like a suspicious package. So they're like kind of like weird about it when they get it.

So I don't know. It just seems super weird. Obviously someone who knew her name and her address and like the fact that she'd be interested in something like that. Maybe. I don't know. 

Yeah. That is weird. So like kind of questions either way, if it is Leona, like that's super weird why I would like, it should be missing, end up in Florida and then send her that without saying like, oh, hi, how are you?

Like I'm okay. Or whatever. Right. But if it's not from Leona, like that's also weird. 

Both ways. It's like a weird thing. 

Yeah. That's sketchy. 

So the police did confirm that that was not the letter was not from Leona or they think it wasn't from Leona. Um, they also would state that like her health card and her social insurance card  have not been used since her disappearance.

And that's about it for that, like for like, until like 30 years later, like after that letter. Nothing else came out about the case until about 30 years later in 2018. The RCMP renewed their call from more leads in the case and asked the people to reach out in social media and to make this case known again and to find out any, any new information that might be out there.

I'm not sure why it took them 30 years to ask for help, or ask for leads. I feel like maybe because, so like maybe because social media is such a big thing now, maybe they thought it would be, somebody might know something all these years later. 

Oh, well this is going to say like, sometimes, you know, you hear of like cases that have gone cold and then like, you know, 20, 30 years later, Somebody new with a fresh pair of eyes comes in to like try and look over some cold cases. So that could have been what was happening, like a newer cop coming in and being like, I'm gonna to put some like fresh, you know, eyes. 

Yeah. It was like thinking like obviously social media didn't exist back in the eighties when she went missing. So maybe it's like now after, like you said, Katie, and you're for the first part, like the Tina Fontaine, like, you know, renewed interest in all of these, you know, cold cases of indigenous women.

So maybe they were like, oh, now with that renewed interest and with now social media is a thing we'll try and see if this would like lead anywhere. So it could have like drummed up some interest in like her case just through that potentially. But yeah, 30 years is a long time. Like they've gone 30 years and nothing.

Yeah. Like they also, um, like they're trying to get like new leads, new information, but they also have, um, the family's DNA on file, like just in case like her body showed up or like they found her body. They have DNA on file to match. And as of 2020, like her case, Leona's case still remains open. The police, the RCMP still have an open communication with the family. And the family said, says that they're satisfied with how the investigation is going so far. I mean, the family doesn't really know a lot about her whereabouts or. Like when she went missing either because like, she traveled so much and she was just like always traveling to and from wherever.

So they don't really have a whole lot of, to go on like timeline wise either.

I was gonna say,, I'm wondering like, if back in like the eighties, if they would've, if they would've found like an unidentified body, if they would've known to like, keep that, DNA to test it later. And if they did, I wonder if they're going to go back and like test some of that old DNA that they found from old or unknown bodies with some of like Leona's family's DNA. Like, is that something that they'll just do or does somebody have to kind of initiate that? I wonder.

 Yeah. Like that's a good point. Like they could have found her body back in like recently after it happened in 91, but it was just like the couldn't identify it or something.

And maybe it was like just a Jane DOE. But now that they have the DNA on file, like, I don't know. Maybe that's a lot of years for it to get lost or they don't have the record there to like match. Cause there's so many Jane Doe's that are found right? How do they know who it belongs to. And so there's so many questions in the case too.

Like they don't even know if she actually made it to Edmonton. And if she did, was she on the streets or how long was she in Edmonton before she was killed? Or how soon after she left? Maybe she was killed, like, you know, the day after she left or something like, we don't know so many myths, like so many questions, then that's a huge trail from Northwest territories to Edmonton, like so many possibilities along that route.

And so many remote locations too probably that like, you know, Out there in the wilderness, like nobody would ever go out there unless, to hide a body. 

Yeah, that's true. And also just an interesting point. I wanted to know, like when you said the family said they were, you know, satisfied with the investigation, it's such a stark contrast from the Amber Tuccaro case with obviously her families, you know, filing lawsuits and all that stuff. So the fact that the family satisfied with the investigation, at least that's something, but hasn't resulted in anything which is frustrating. 

I feel like the reason why they're satisfied is because they don't know like where her last whereabouts, but they don't know much about what her life was like, because she, even though she had contact with her, she was traveling so much that, so they, they know just as much as the police know, 

like I think, yeah, like in Amber's case, like there was so many things like potential leads that could have been investigated and they weren't, whereas in this one, the family's acknowledging like, yeah, there's literally nothing to go on. So it's not like, it's not like they know of stuff that the police didn't follow up on. It's like, they just know that there's nothing to follow up on, which is frustrating. 

So, yeah, like her case, like I said, her case is still open. Um, there also were some theories that had come out about the case, like, um, that she had met with foul play or like she was picked up by someone who had like evil and malicious intentions while hitchhiking in Yellowknife or that you met with foul play while in Edmonton or the, or she never even left or she was murdered before she made it to Edmonton. There's so much like speculation around like her disappearance. Like, did she even make it to Edmonton?

There's a 15 hour walk slash drive from Yellowknife to Edmonton. So like she could have not even made it to Edmonton or even out of Yellowknife for that matter. So there's a lot of speculations, a lot of theories that people think, but there's just no hard evidence to go on or, um, 

or she could've made it to Florida, to send that letter... Which is like, I, I doubt that's true, or like that's from her, but 

yeah, but she could have really went  beyond Edmonton and went like anywhere across Canada or even into the states. Like she could've went anywhere. 

So if Leona was still alive, um, she would be 51 years old. At the time of her disappearance, she was about four feet, six inches tall. She weighed about 106 pounds. Um, she has brown hair and brown eyes. She has some distinct, um, scars on her body. And one of them is a circular shaped scar on her upper right cheek. Her disappearance is also known as like a, uh, endangered missing because she'd been missing for so long.

They classified as endangered. So if you have any information concerning Brule's whereabouts you can contact the Royal mounted police at 8 6 7 6 9 9 3 2 9 1. If you want to send your tip in anonymously, you can do that by calling Crimestoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS. That's 1 800 222 8477. So the second case I'm going to be talking to you about is the  story of Leah Anderson. Leah was this very vibrant girl. She was full of life. Um, despite her rough start to her life, Leah was in and out of foster care for most of her childhood after her father was murdered in 2003, her mother found it hard to cope with the grief, which led to her falling into addictions, to cope with the loss, which is why Leah was put into foster care.

Lee was living in Thompson, Manitoba. But after the murder of her dad and her mom's addiction, the city's child welfare got involved and Leah and her three siblings were sent into foster care. Leah was sent to 13 different foster cares before her, her aunt stepped in, in 2005. And that's when they were allowed to move to God's Lake Narrows, which is a town of a population of 1300.

And it's the only, and the only accessible road is by ice roads in the winter or by air. Once Leah moved to God's Lake Narrows, she started to become very involved in her Cree community. She was well-known in the community, which is why she was rewarded the youth chief, because she was trusted by everyone in her community.

And everyone knew her. She was friends with a lot of the people and had a huge social circle. She was on a good path to a bright future. She was very artistic. She was very talented when it came to dancing, singing, and she wanted to go to the university, the arts university of Winnipeg, and she was very excited to achieve that goal.

And she worked really hard at her academics to make sure she had the grades she needed to make that dream a reality. So on January 4th at around 7:30 PM was the last time Leah was seen. On this day, she was supposed to go skating with her friends at a local arena. This was the last day before she was supposed to head back to school, but her friends ended up not going skating.

Leah decided to go anyways. So she texted another friend while she was there. And before she left the house, her uncle told her that she had to be back by curfew. Leah was always one to like obey curfew. She never broke the rules. She was always home on time. Like her aunt and uncle could always trust her. So when Leah didn't show up, back home after skating, they figured that she just ended up going to a friend's house for the night.

But when she didn't return home, the following day, This is when her family decided to get a little bit more worried. So something didn't really sit right with them. So they got a group of people together from the community to perform a search for Leah before they even went to the police, because they figured it was such a small community, like, like there's 1300 people, but where she lived was quite small.

Um, so they figured that they'd just get a group of people together and like search some houses. But unfortunately, like they came up empty handed. Two days later after she went missing, which was on January 6th, the family heard over the radio that a body was found near a trail that was known as a snowmobile trail on the reserves.

And because the community was so small where Leah lived, it was quickly determined that it was Leah's body and this was determined because they actually did a head count in her community. And the only person that was missing was Leah. 

So it was like, they just got the whole entire town together and just did a head count of everyone?

Yeah. 

They did confirm it, but DNA after didn't they, or, or by looking at, or they could tell that it was Leah's? 

Leah's sister was able to identify that it was her because she was still wearing the skates and holding onto the bag that she took with her the day that she disappeared. During the investigation, it was determined that her body was found at 10:00 AM that morning on the sixth, on the trail, the snowmobile trail, her body was disfigured.

And the police originally thought that she was a victim of like wolves. Or she was attacked by wolves and wild dogs. But during her autopsy, it was determined that you've actually beaten to death. So now they, they knew they had like a homicide, a homicide on their hands. And when they examined the body closer, they noticed that she had defensive wounds, meaning that she fought with her attacker.

It was also. She was killed before 10:00 PM on January 4th. And the killer just dumped her body on the trail. There wasn't a whole lot of evidence at the trail because the day they found her body, it had snow pretty heavily that morning. So it was hard to like a lot of D a lot of evidence was tampered with because of the heavy  during the weekend that Leah was murdered.

The RCMP revealed that the killer would have been someone in the community, because the only way out was the, was the ice roads. And those roads were closed that weekend, which meant it had to be somebody within God's Lake Narrows community. And at the time of..

 Creepy, it's like one of it's like one of those, like, you know, one of it's one of you in the community, like they're doing the head count and it's like, well, which one of you is the one who did it?

And at the time of this murder, there was only like 284 houses on the reserves, which gave investigators hope that this would be an open and shut case  because they could go door to door and like try to find evidence because it was such a small community that she lived in. But unfortunately that was not the case.

What they thought would take days, turned into years. And at this point RCMP think, now they're starting to think that it was somebody outside of the community. Where she was, her body was found, like I said, it was like the snow snowmobile trail and this trail was used quite frequently for people who would often smuggle in  alcohol through that, that trail. Which gave, and then which would give them access to like snowmobiles. So it could have been somebody from outside the community. Leah's family was becoming worried that there would be like lack of evidence and that her case would never be solved.

 Um, there were a few rumors going around. One of the rumors was that she attended a house party of one of her friends named Josephine Bee.

And that Leah's boyfriend went to find her at the house, but was denied access to the house because it was on an all girls party so that they wouldn't let him in. Other rumors involved like Lee Leah's boyfriend, max Max's cousin, which was Leah's friend's brother, Steven Chubb. And according to Leah's cousin, Destiny, Steven was admitting to an unidentified woman that he had killed somebody, but he never mentioned who.

So the police took Steven into questioning and he was given a lie detector test, which he passed. And during those investigations, Steven admits that him and Leah had a secret relationship, but that ended months prior to her death. So he was ruled out as a suspect because they could never, they never did confirm like that he actually said he had killed somebody like that was just hearsay from like two people. So in April, 2013, the RCMP and the community offered a $10,000 reward for any information leading up to the arrest in the case. And two years later in 2015, A girl was murdered in the same community. And it was 22 year old Crystal Andrews.

She was murdered in the same area as Leah was. And her family and Leah's family were all protesting outside of the RCMP office offices because they were angry because of the slow how slow the investigation was going and that nothing had been done for a while. And they wanted some answers. And then just two years later in 37 year old, Michael Williams Mascaro was arrested and charged with the murder of Crystal Andrews.

Michael Mascaro, they ruled him out as a suspect in, in Leah's case. Not really sure why they didn't really give a whole lot of information, but he was never a suspect in her case. So a DNA swab was taken from Steven.

So Steven was hope, was hoping that the DNA would clear him as a suspect.. And in 2019, it was determined that the DNA collected from Leah's clothes and body showed DNA of an unknown male and the RCMP turned to social media numerous times to try and dig up any leads in order to help the RCMP solve the case.

They also had... the RCMP had a very long list of suspects. They were trying to narrow down a lot of those suspects. On the list, they were all ruled out and the police say that her killer was known to her and it was someone that she would have trusted. So I'm assuming it wasn't Steven, because if they had his DNA in the system and then they had the DNA found on her body, then they would have connected the two together.

Yeah. And this is like, they say that it would have been someone who was known to her as someone that you trusted. It's like, why does it have to be someone that she trusted if she just like. You know, taken on her way to like go skating or something. Like, it's not like, you know, somebody picked her up and she would have gotten willingly into someone's car, which maybe like, I feel like there's like a missing piece there.

Like what makes them think it's something that she trusted. If it's just someone who does, you know, attacks her that doesn't have to be someone she trusts. 

Yeah. Just because she went with someone doesn't mean she wasn't being forced. Like they could have taken her out. Yeah. So it doesn't mean she wasn't just like, you know, because she went doesn't mean it was.

Lee. Right? Like somebody could have forced her to go with them. That doesn't mean she trusted them, obviously. Like I don't. Yeah. I don't see how they could figure that out. 

One of those people that was like, that came in until like smuggling alcohol, like maybe. I don't know if she was like into drinking. Maybe she kind of knew one of those guys that would deliver regularly. Like she got to know him or something.

He was an outsider, but she knew him. So that could be a possibility. Yeah. So like the investigation is still ongoing. Um, but the police aren't saying any details to the public, if they found any new leads or anything like that, they do admit that they've conducted over 270 interviews and Leah's family is still very frustrated with the investigation and they would just want justice for their little girl. Uh, the community is now rewarding $11,000 for anybody who knows anything about the case. And if anybody knows any information about Leah's killer or any details about the case are asked to contact the Winnipeg RCMP at 2 0 4 9 8 3 5 4 2 0. Or if you want to leave a tip anonymously, you can call Crimestoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS.

That's 1-800-222-8477. And those are the two cases I have for you guys today. 

So next week will be the final part to a four-part series. And in this episode, we'll be talking about the highway of tears. It should be an interesting discussion and I can't wait to share it with you guys. 

It kind of like bring this mini series, like all bring it all together because the highway of tears, like you can't really have a discussion about missing and murdered indigenous women in Canada without talking about the highway of tears.

It's such a significant part of that. So we're going to dedicate the final part of this, to that whole topic or part of the discussion. Um, so yeah. Thank you for tuning into part three. You can find us on all the social media is as always. You can find us on Facebook at Crime Family Podcast, on Instagram @crimefamilypodcast, Twitter @crimefamilypod1 and our email is crimefamilypodcast@gmail.com. Send us all your great suggestions, feedback, tips, anything you'd like. Um, if you want us to do another mini series about another topic, maybe you can send us some suggestions for that. Uh, we'd love to hear what you guys have to say and, uh, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, if you listen on apple podcasts, because that's how people know about the podcast and see what other people think. And it's very helpful in supporting the show. So, yeah. Thank you guys so much. See you next week for part four and, uh, take care. 

See you next week.