THE UNSOLVED MADISON SCOTT CASE

On Friday, May 27, 2011, Madison Scott went camping at Hogsback Lake with a group of friends for a birthday celebration. On Saturday night, a larger party occurred with people coming and going into the early hours. By Sunday morning, everyone had left the area and Maddy was missing.

Her truck remained at the site, her tent had been flattened, and her belongings including her sleeping bag and purse were left behind. There were no clear signs of where she went.

The case remained a mystery until 2023, when human remains were discovered on a nearby rural property and later identified as Madison Scott. Since this discovery, no arrests have been made and very little is known about the circumstances of her disappearance.

In this episode, we examine the parties, the conflicting timelines, the unsettling scene at her campsite, and the discovery that brought some answers but not closure.

Anyone with information is asked to contact the RCMP at 778-290-5291 or Crime Stoppers anonymously at 1-800-222-8477.

RESOURCES:

Justice for Maddy Website

"Why did Madison Scott die? 13 years later, there are still no answers" (CBC News)

"Northern B.C. homicide witnesses silenced by gang fears" (CBC News)

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Crime Family. I am your co-host Lisa, and I'm here with my sister Katie and my brother AJ. And today I will be telling the story, and I am doing the case of Madison Scott. I actually had only heard about this case not that long ago. I had never heard of it before, and I hadn't realized how big of a case it actually was. I don't know if you guys have heard of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

No, Katie might have. I think it sounds familiar, but I don't I can't think of the details right now. So it might you might drop my memory.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

Yeah, okay. So Madison Scott was a young girl with a bright future when she disappeared from a campsite in British Columbia and Canada in 2011, and she seemingly seemed to disappear into thin air. Cops are still no closer to finding out who is responsible and what happened to Madison Scott. So it's Madison Scott, but her family and her friends all say Maddie. So I'm probably just gonna call her Maddie because most of my notes say Maddie. Just side note. So it was a Sunday morning in the town of Vanderhoof, BC, in May of 2011, and 20-year-old Maddie Scott's parents were concerned. They hadn't heard from their daughter since Friday night when she had headed out to go camping with some friends at Hawksback Lake. Um, it was her friend's birthday, and there had been like a big birthday bash at the lake, which is about 15 kilometers from where Madison lived in Vanderhoof, B.C. So Madison and one of her friends were planning on camping overnight at the lake, and they packed the overnight bags and a tent and they left in Madison's truck. So at Hawksback Lake, there's like a forest service campsite, and it's right on the lake. And some reports say there's about three or four actual campsites, and then there's like a big lake with a dock, and it's a very popular place, small towns, and like a lot of people have a lot of like bush parties there, and it was just um a really big party area. So it had been a normal Friday night when Maddie left to go to the party. Her mom later says in an interview that she had done with The Express. And she said her and Maddie had lunch that day, and then Maddie left to go camping, but had forgotten some tent poles. So she had so she had to come back home and then she left again that night. So her mom said her and Maddie were texting all night until about 11:30 p.m. the night before. And the next day, Saturday, Madison's parents had found it strange that they had not heard from the daughter. But since she was a responsible 20-year-old adult, they did report her missing right away. They did call her at least once, but it went right to straight to voicemail. And her mother, you know, she said she wasn't too concerned about this because she knew self-service was could be spotty at the lake. But when Saturday turned into Sunday, and when they still hadn't heard from their daughter, they decided to drive to Hogsback Lake themselves and see what was going on. So when they pull up to the site, they find no one. Um, but they do see Madison's white truck and they also see her tent, but her tent is like completely flattened. Like it looks like it's just down. Um, I actually do have a picture of it. It's just like in it's a like a completely flattened um tent. So they immediately go to her truck, um, but the doors are locked. So they peek in the windows and they see Madison's purse and backpack, but not her cell phone and no truck keys. And Madison, Madison's mother said when she saw her daughter's belongings in the truck, that was when the real worry crept in because Maddie never went anywhere without her purse. So they decide to talk um to call the police right away. And when police arrived, the two lead detectives immediately start constructing a profile of Madison. So Maddie was close to her siblings. She has a brother, Ben, and a sister, Georgia. And after graduating high school, Maddie joined her father in the logging industry, which is like the biggest industry in the small town of Vanderhoof, DC. And police quickly learned that everyone loved Maddie and everyone only had great things to say about her. And she was very well liked in the community, and she was an avid outdoors person and she loved sports. So right away, this becomes a huge search. There were search and rescue teams from five towns and cities altogether. So police quickly determined that around 3 a.m. was the last time Maddie was seen alive by partygoers. And then around 10 a.m. is when one of her friends came back to the campsite and she doesn't see Maddie's Maddie anywhere. So, like between 3 a.m. and 10 a.m. roughly is the timeline. Although some reports say it's between uh 4 and 8:30. Grid searches of the area begin immediately from the campsite, um, and helicopter searches are conducted overhead, and the nearby lake is searched. And on Monday, May 30th, the official search and rescue team with additional volunteers continue the grid searching around Hogsback Lake, and more helicopter searching is done. They thoroughly cover the whole area around the campsite and lake, but they do not see any sign of anyone leaving the area on Fort or ATV on any of the trails through the woods. So the community starts putting up missing posters, and then throughout the next few days, the RCMP investigation continued, and a team of 14 members is assembled. So her friends, family, and Reese volunteers, like I said, they continue grid searching for days and weeks. Um all the trails are searched by ATV and foot. House-to-house canvassing is done. Uh, people across the province of BC are contacted to spread the word and put up posters. Our Facebook group is started and a temporary website is formed. And so the volunteer search group covered a huge ton of ground. So the initial search for Maddie involved an extensive area with helicopter searches covering approximately 2,788 square kilometers. So it's like roughly 50 kilometers by 71 kilometers. And this search spanned east to west between Isle Pierre and Fraser Lake, and north to south between Fort St. James and south of Paddock Lake. So it's a huge, it was a huge, huge area that was searched. Grid searches of all the trails around the Hallsback area, nearby gravel pits were searched, and the Canadian Rangers actually spent a whole weekend searching. For those who don't know, it's like a vast, rugged wilderness. It is called the Great Wilderness for a reason. It's like it has offers immense, like undeveloped spaces, and many areas are only accessible by backcountry trails, by or by water, or by air. And Vanderhoofd Bridge Carrie specifically is considered to be located in the wilderness on the edge of it. And it has a reputation of being a wild and wonderful region. So trying to find one person in this vast wilderness is like finding a needle in a haystack, the cop said. It's just woods for miles, basically. So our SC and P start interviewing and polygraphing people that have been at the party. So police say that they spoke to all 50 people at the party that night, but they had not been able to identify anyone who had a grudge or a reason to want to harm Maddie. And on the Justice for Maddie website, though, which has a ton of information, it says there were about 150 people at the party. And no one reported seeing Maddie at I mean no one reported seeing her at all, which is not true because she was there. So that that was that's odd. They even find out that the next morning at around 10 a.m., some partygoers had come back to the campsite to clean up and they saw her tent and it was still standing at this point. And her truck was on, her truck was there too, but no one checked to see if Maddie was in the tent. And there was no other tent so campus around, which is her tent. At this time it had right now, it wasn't flattened at this point. It was still up. And there was no other one, nobody around, and they didn't never check to see who was in the tent. So after talking to everyone that was at the party, there's one detail that emerges that is troubling for police and her family. Maddie's friends had left Maddie completely alone at the campsite that fateful night. Like that's the one thing that they know for sure. Like they all just kind of left her.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

So like the party that I don't know if you said this or maybe I missed it, but the party that was happening out there, was it people that she knew, or was it gonna be just a random party with a bunch of strangers?

SPEAKER_02 8:44

That was supposed to be just a birthday party for Maddie's friend. Um, but another party actually ha happened on that same night, and that this party had been posted on Facebook. So at the end of the night, the two parties kind of formed into one. Constable Tom Whamsteaker, who's the lead detective, uh, said that as far as Maddie knew, other people were going to be camping that night. It wasn't just gonna be her. But as it turns out, as the night got later and later, people packed up and everyone eventually left, including a goal a girl named Geordie Bulldock, who had promised Maddie that she would stay with her. So Geordie is brought up a lot, uh, brought up a lot in this case. A lot of people have negative feeling thoughts about her. There was a lot of suspicion on her at first. So she actually said um she did an interview with 48 Hours, and she said that even now, years later, people still think she's a horrible person because she left her best friend out there. And she said she still has people writing on her Facebook that she killed Maddie. So Geordie says that the police questioned her very hard for days uh right away. Um, and the two questions they kept asking over and over again to her were, Did you kill Maddie? And were you there when Maddie was killed? And she goes into more detail about the night of the party. So she says that the party was only supposed to be people that they knew. But like I said before, there was another party that night as well. Apparently, people had posted on Facebook about the party, so it turned into this huge hogsback lake party. And Geordie says she knew most of the people at the party until the end. She said at the very end, people came that she and uh she had no idea who they were. And then, according to Geordie, the party turns rough. The people had started a fight, and they started a fight right behind what Jordy had was sitting, so she left to go stand by the fire. And at some point, Geordie is injured, she gets injured. Um, I don't know if she was injured from like she was drunk and she was drunk, and I don't know if she got like a drunken injury or like the fight broke out and she got hurt in that. But she's injured, and so her boyfriend carries her to her truck and they tell Maddie that they're leaving. And according to Geordie, Maddie's response, when they told her they were leaving, she was like shocked. She was begging Geordie not to leave because Geordie was supposed to stay with her and in the tent. And she begged Geordie not to leave. And Geordie's like, Well, come with us then. And she said she didn't want to leave her truck or a tent there. She was worried something would happen to them. So she's like, actually, I'll just stay, like, I guess we'll stay here. I'll be fine. So Geordie and her boyfriend leave her at around 1:30 a.m. But by 10 a.m. the next morning, Geordie said she was feeling guilty for leaving Maddie alone. So she goes back to Hogsback to help Maddie pack up and to grab her things. But when Geordie got there, she said she saw no Maddie. But she looked around and figured like she saw her truck. She thought maybe Maddie was sleeping in the truck. But she does notice that Maddie's tent was a mess. So it was like she said the tent door was wide open and the blankets and pillows were pushed to the side. And she said her rings were outside the tent. Um, and Maddie never took off her rings. She said her rings and earrings were on the ground, so it was concerning for Jordi. But this is like this whole ring thing is a huge part of the case. Like when the birthday boy came back the next day around 10 to pick to clean up, he didn't see any jewelry on the ground. Like he never saw anything. Um, he he just saw that they're saying like the Jewley was never there. Then they a lot of people focus on this the piece of Jewley outside the ground that Geordie said she saw, because other people came to clean up, they never saw it. Geordie said she went to get a sleeping bag on that Saturday morning, and she was on her uh hands and knees and grabbed a sleeping bag, exited the tent again, and zipped up the tent door to the tent. When the boy to boy came and cleaned up the campsite, he didn't notice any Julie, but he did notice the tent door being zipped up, because she had zipped it up. And then they say one would assume that if he saw any Julie, he might have like picked it up and put it in a neat pile by the tent door, thinking Maddie was like inside sleeping and was gonna get it later. But there wasn't like the guy said that the guy that came after Jordy said there was no Julie. So I just find that interesting. Then that night, actually, Saturday night, there was another party at Hogsback Lake. About 150 people in attendance showed up. Um, and they said there was no Julie there. Either they got questioned, there was no Julie, but they they noticed her tent, but they were just partying around the tent in her truck. And they also said uh Madison's phone stopped sending a signal about eight o'clock on Saturday morning. So anyway, it was revealed that Geordie and was one of the last people to see uh Madison, and her and the last people to lead the party were focused on intently after the investigation, uh, after she went missing. Um and Geordie said she the police talked to her every day for three months. She was considered a suspect, but she took two polygraphs, uh, what she passed, and eventually she was eliminated as a suspect. But there's still to this day suspicion on her. So police continued following up on tips and they that they received, and they start like um following up on cell phone records, but there is nothing. There's no sign of Madison anywhere, and no one has like said they saw her. There's a 28-year-old man named Fibon Borson, but but he goes by Fribb, so we can call him Fribb, but that was that's his name. Um, but he was telling friends that he knew what had happened to Maddie, and he was he was also a logger from Vanderhoof, and police said he was a friend of Maddie's and they had spent some time together socializing. And Geordie kinds of kind of alludes to Maddie, Maddie and Fib's kind of being a couple. And Jordy says, like, she couldn't really believe that they were together because Fib was like bad news. He was he had a troubled life and he had abused drugs, but his mother had told police that his son was turning that her son was turning his life around. And so, of course, when this gets when they find out that he's a suspect, there's talk in the town that Fib owed people money for drugs, and then they had abducted Maddie to teach him a lesson. So that's like a theory that people hold uh grab onto. But police did investigate that theory, and Fib takes a lie detector test and he passes. And the cops say, based largely on the fact that he passed the polygraph test, they they clear him. The RCMP clear him as a suspect. But however, two days after he was cleared, Fib then goes missing. And two weeks later, investigators found his severed head in an abandoned house in a nearby town, and they'd never found his body. So, oh shit. I know.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

I did not expect that.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Me either. I was like, what? No. Fib's mother said she thinks her son was killed for a paycheck he had cashed the night and he went missing. And eventually, four suspects ended up being charged for Fripp's murder. And police say there's no connection between his murder and Maddie's disappearance. It's just a weird part of the story. So four suspects end up getting charged and for his murder. They find who did it. They never found his body, but he they've been charged, put away, and that's kind of like case closed in a sense, even though they haven't found his body. So a year goes by, then another, then another, and then another. There were private searches in 2012 and 2013. More missing persons posters were put out far and wide. And then between the years of 2012 to 2018, there was like the annual annual poker ride in Hogsback Lake to keep awareness and local community involved. And pro scenes would went to the local community association and funding for Find Maddie Awareness. So um, a poker ride, I did have no idea what it was, but it's like an organized non-speed dependent event where participants on motorcycles, horses, boats, or like bicycles travel a scenic group, and they stop at five or seven checkpoints, two draw playing cards. And participants pay an entry fee and they receive a map and a scorecard and visit designated checkpoints. And at each stop, a volunteer records a randomly drawn card on the participant scorecard. So that's kind of what they did every year to draw attention to the case. And then eventually multiple podcasts um started started discussing this case and then the theories that they've never ended. And still throughout all this time, police had no one, no evidence, no suspects, nothing. Maddie seemed to just disappear into thin air. Um, so like I said, there had been no son of traffic on any of the trails nearby. So police book eventually had to have gotten into a car. But the search area, like I said, was vast and endless, and it seemed impossible to find it because some trails you couldn't even get, uh you had to get by boat or by air. So Madison Scott's parents, they become frustrated with the lack of uh leads and evidence, um, and they're becoming more and more heartbroken with each day that passes. So they decided to begin their own investigations separate from the police. So they create this huge board that had a list of people who had been at the party and by their name and had when they arrived, what they left, who they arrived with, and who they left with. And this huge board went up in the Scott's basement. Um, and on it they retraced all of Maddie's movements throughout that whole day. She went missing. Maddie had gone to a liquor store and then had bought snacks a little later, and she is seen on security camera just hours before she ranages in the woods. They also had a category on this big whiteboard labeled questions. And some of the questions were why was she left on her own and why did everybody leave? And I think for her parents especially, those two questions were the most like perplexing. Like, why did her best friend leave her there by herself? Why did everyone leave her? Why was she no one ever checked on in the tent the next morning when they went to clean up? Um, why did Geordi never look in the truck to see if Maddie was in fact sleeping there? Um, so they that was the two questions that they they just couldn't understand. But based on this separate investigation, there was still no leads that led nowhere, and a hundred thousand dollar reward of information was established. So Hog Stark Lake is only 50-minute drive from where the Scots lived in the tiny town of Vanderhoof. And Vanderhoof sits along Highway 16, which I know you guys know. You did a case on it, and it's Canada's infamous highway called the Highway of Tears. So the Highway Tears is like a 724-kilometer stretch of highway in British Columbia, Canada. It connects Prince George in the east to Prince Rupert on the Pacific coast in the west. And this route is infamous for the high number of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls. And since 1969, at least 18 women have gone missing or have been murdered in the very area where Manny went missing. So I bring that up because one of the people that popped up on police radar, and one of the people that people kept saying over and over again was the serial killer Cody Lajabukov. So he was convicted at the age of 21 in 2014 of murdering three women and one teenage girl between 2009 and 2010 in or near the city of Prince George, BC, which is 100 kilometers east of Vanderhoof. So six months before Maddie went missing, another girl that actually banished in Vanderhoof, uh, 15-year-old Lauren Leslie in November 2010 had set out to walk along the highway of tears from Vanderhoof to Prince George. And she did this often, often hitch and rides. And so did many other like that was many women and men that would hitchhike from one town to the next because it was a small town, no Uber, no taxi, and that's where a lot of people would go missing. These women would walk from one town to the next on this dark highway, and they would get picked up and never were seen from or heard from again. So Lauren's dad had gotten a call at around midnight, and it was the police asking if Lauren was at home because they had found her ID. And so police had actually, a cop had actually stopped 20-year-old Cody because he had seen a black pickup truck kind of like squealing out from a dark logging road. And something about it made the cop decide to stop him to see what he was doing. And they figured he was probably like poaching or hunting or doing something. So they stopped that Cody said yes, he was poaching. So they follow, they take a flashlight and they follow the truck's path back towards the logging road. And then in a way um a little bit a ways in, they find the body of Lauren and she had been savagely murdered. So anyway, it's revealed later that police were able to tie Cody to three other murders along the Highway of Tears. Um, and but police believe there are many more victims of victims of his. And now he's he has now, since he's serving life now for those murders. And then just something else, like the Highway of Tears is a huge, awesome investigation. There's been like 1,400 people persons of interest, 60,000 people have been interviewed. Anyway, I just bring that up because that was like thought maybe Cody had could be responsible for Maddie's disappearance. But he had actually been in jail custody for months before Maddie disappeared. So he was viewed as a suspect for this case, so he didn't do it. Like I said before, this was a huge case, an investigation. Um and like a group of friends even traveled to the Grey Cup at Vancouver to distribute 6,000 flyers around Vancouver asking for clues. Um, and it was just the Highway of Tears is a perfect dumping ground, and it was just such a daunting task for the police to search. They didn't even know where to begin, to search that whole stretch. Um it really was the perfect place to get rid of some something. So in Vanderhoof, BC, the small town who always rallied together, they were just baffled by the disappearance. Everyone was. It was just there was no sign of her, um, no evidence. She literally seemed to have vanished. So Madison Scott's face was plastered everywhere on every billboard, every store window, and on truck bumper stickers. But like I said, no one ever came forward and there was no sign of her. And I also have like a timeline actually that's about the the the night of and the next day when people came. So they say around like Around 8 o'clock on that Friday night, they go she goes to Hogsback Lake with Geordie. They gathered some firewood. And according to the Facebook event, um Garrett's birthday party starts. And then around 8:30, Maddie realizes she got the wrong-size tent poles and she has to go back home. So she goes back to her house to pick up the larger tent and poles, and then she talks briefly with her mom for a bit. And then around 9:30-ish, she arrives back at Hogsback and sets up the tent and settles in for the night. And then it says, like Madison Scott spends the night in her tent while people continue to party and the party continues outside. And then I think around 11:30, um, she has a text conversation with her mother. And according to witnesses, she's still in the tent at this time. So it looks, it seems like she was just she was in her tent for most of the night. And then it says around three in the morning, Madison received an incoming call. And according to her mother, it was from a guy that she knew. And then around 3:30, Madison is still in her tent. It says 3.30 here, but then you know, Jordy says it was actually 1.30 when they leave. But it says so she's still in a tent. She's still in her tent when Geordie asks Scott to leave with her. And but Madison refuses to leave, so they and so they they leave her. People say at around 3.30, that's when like she goes missing. That's the last time anyone's really seen her. She was by her tent. And then at 8:30 in the morning, Geordie comes back to Hog's back to pick up her sleeping bag and clothes and discovers Maddie's tent unzipped and the sleeping bag pushed to the side, but she didn't see Maddie anywhere. And then the party host reported that he saw Maddie's tent when he went to clean her after the party. He saw that the tent was zipped up. He didn't check it out as he thought that she was sleeping. So she didn't want, he didn't want to go with like he just left her there while he was cleaning up. And then, like I said, then that night, a larger party happens on Saturday night, and this party had approximately 150 people in attendance. Um, and then 12:30 new is when she's reported missing on Sunday when her parents come. I really thought, like, when her parents come, the tent was flattened, but when Jordy had it had been flattened when Jordy came, I thought that was very weird. But I guess if they had a party that night, and I guess it I don't know, they flattened the tent. I don't know, like they just I don't know, like the tent not the tent being flattened on Sunday morning, but it had been up when other people came to clean up.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

How close was the tent to like the party site, like right on the site, or was it like a little bit of a few? I think so.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

I mean they doesn't really say, it just said there was a party that night and Yeah, I don't know, the tent was flattened. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

I just picture being like a camp her campsite's kind of like in the middle of all these other people just coming, and there's like her campsite's just there and everyone's just around partying because her she's still there. I was gonna say, yeah, and someone probably falls on the tent.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

That detail of her tent being flattened when the parents came, but not flattened when George Geordie came. I fixated on that so much. And then I found out that there had been another between Geordie coming and the parents, there had been another party that night. So I'm like, oh maybe. I mean, it's like they don't even see someone's in the tent, they just like started like lay on it. Like they started like, I don't know, it's just weird that they're partying about this tent. And they also, and all everyone at the neck that next party on Saturday night is saying they never saw that they right before the sun went down, they everyone's saying they never saw any jewelry outside the tent. Comes back to the jewelry. There was no jewelry outside the tent, like Jory said there was. So anyway, it just always like uh just that the ring was on the ground and the earrings on the ground that Jory, I mean that Madison apparently never took off. It's just weird that that detail is just always something that is mentioned.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

So obviously she was so I guess they're assuming that she was dead before the second party happened.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

She was gone, like and and then her mother does say, like, it looks like she was ready to get she was I then another part the thought maybe the tent got flat because her parents said it looked like she was in the process of dissembling her tent and grabbing her stuff and something happened to her right outside her tent as she was packing up. I don't know, it's just the tent being completely just flat. I don't know, it's just it's it's just odd to me. I think that makes more sense than people just kind of like reckon it. Not sure if someone's in there or not. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

I don't know. I don't know. You have like a big party and there's tents, like people like you mean if you ever been to a festival when there's like tents, yeah, or tents, like people like they're like fighting, they throw chairs at tents and like they like people are weird. Um and I've seen like yeah, multiple tents being flattened with people in them. But yeah, yeah.

unknown 26:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

Also still her stuff was in the tent, right?

SPEAKER_02 26:43

Yeah, like so. Jody, when Jody comes, he says she said all her stuff, like Jordy went in, like Jordy said the tent doors aren't up was opened all the way after all of her sleeping bags and pills have been pushed to the side, which is weird. Like she liked not like she had just been sleeping in all night. And so Jody goes in there to get her stuff and she zips it back up. And that's why when the party got the guy comes back to clean up, he says all the tent was closed and it was still erect.

unknown 27:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

But when the but when the but when the it's flattened, it's there's her stuff's still in it. Right?

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:12

Because like that's why I was thinking because you said like she was in the in the process of packing up and that's why it was maybe flattened, but like you would take your stuff out before you flatten it.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

Oh, and that's what her but her mom just like mom her mom just threw that out, like l she thinks that she was standing outside the tent, like getting ready to pack up, and she was taken.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

Or unless she just wanted to get out of there and just was like, I'm just gonna roll up everything. My tent and all, everything in it, yeah, and then just like deal with it later just to get out of there. Jordy is always brought up in this case.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

She gets she still gets negative attention because people don't understand why she goes there Saturday morning, she feels guilty about leaving a friend there in the woods, you know, who wouldn't. And then she comes back to help clean up and she sees the truck and the tent and she definitely checked the truck to see if Maddie's in there. And she opens up the tent to get her staff, doesn't see Maddie, and the whole all the Saturda Saturday goes by and she doesn't say anything about Maddie Matt. She doesn't call to see where Maddie is. It's not until Sunday morning when the c when when the parents come that Geordie is like, oh yeah, like it's just weird. Like, why did she mention she just lets a whole day go by and she doesn't see Maddie or hurry from Maddie all day and she nodded at a truck for a yeah, I just that's suspicious to police. I think that's why police for three months the police really pursued her heavily, because they that didn't make sense to them. It's just a little weird, a little suspicious, I think, that you wouldn't even look in the I think like look in the sea if you're fellow sleeping in the truck, like she thought she was. No suspects, no evidence, nothing was ever found. Her truck keys were missing and her her cell phone and she also was wearing flip-flops that night. So she took off, she was wearing flip-flops, so she went off into the wilderness and flip-flops or something if she that nothing was ever found of hers. All the leads had been exhausted, and she literally vanished. Twelve years to the day Madison went missing, May uh 29th, 2023, RCMP announced they had found her remains in a rural property on the east side of Vanderhoofst, BC, which is roughly 18 kilometers from the Hawksback Lake area where she disappeared 12 years prior, after a search warrant for the property was executed. So the property she was found at was owned by people who actually attended that party with Maddie. So it uh apparently the father of two brothers who were at that party owned the property, and the property search was part of a long-term investigation by the RCMP major crime section special projects unit following years of searches. I could not find like like they never look what led them to that property. Anyway, so they they they found her remains on this guy's property, and so 2,000 people actually attended her ritual. There's a community the community for a community the size of 4,500 people, almost half of the peop of the town, whole town was at this ritual for her. It was a huge massive break in the case. But that's kind of where it ended. Like no cause of death to this day has ever been revealed. No arrests have ever been made. And as of early 2026, the investigation into the death of her Madison Scott is still active or ongoing, and the$100,000 reward is still up for grabs.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

Why would they not arrest that person?

SPEAKER_02 30:25

I don't know. Yeah, and why did they have a search warrant for their property? I literally Googled it. I could not get but straight to a four. I said, why did they search this property? And they just said it was executed after a search warrant. Like, what led them to that property? And why was no one arrested? Like her bones were found on the property. No one was ever arrested, still to this day. And no cause of death was ever revealed.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

Was the search was the search warrant in because of this case, or was it like something else they had a search warrant for and they just happened to find her? So weird.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

The property search was part of a long-term investigation by the RCMP major crime unit, and it came after years of searches. It does not say why they chose that property, which I find is so weird. Like, like this but let's and I find that no no one was ever brought in for c questioning, like no one who owned the property. It's so strange.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

Like I find it weird because it's like not only was her body found on the property, but like they can also connect the person who owned that property to the party that she was last year. I know. So it's not like it would be like, oh, she was just randomly dumped on someone's property who might not be connected, but like that person has a connection to the party. So that seems like enough to at least bring them in for questioning, or like isn't that wouldn't that be grounds for arrest?

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Was it's was this a massive property where it would be like if it was like I guess if it's like a huge property, someone just happens to stumble across your property, you wouldn't necessarily see them there. If it's like wooded, you know what I mean? You're not gonna like scour your your entire property every day, right? You know what I mean? If it's a huge, like wooded property. So it's not like it was a small little like town, like townhouse or something with a with a body in the yard.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

It just it says the specific acreage of the property has not never been disclosed. Um they just they're not they're not saying anything. And it's you know, she was found May 2023, and there's still been no arrests and no cause of death. It's still unsolved. I don't understand. I don't see this ever when i they're not even saying how big this not even saying how big the property is. They're not saying no they never once arrested brought like no one was considered a suspect in that house, I guess. It's just odd. It's odd. It's very weird. It is. Right? I couldn't believe that they I was like, was anyone ever arrested who who owned that property? No. Like no one was ever questioned, like no one was ever like considered a suspect. And they they didn't say how big the property was. It says, but the discovery was a major development, but no suspects have been publicly publicly charged, and the investigation remains active. And it says like the it indicated the land is owned by the father of brothers who attended the same party as her.

SPEAKER_00 33:08

But I mean I guess I g I know like the reason, like what's the point? I mean, I guess just to say they found the body, but like usually like if something's still unsolved, you go to the public and release stuff and like a plea for information, but it's like it seems like they have all the information they need, or most of the information they need. So what are they but it's still not solved? I don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

Like, why did they go to that why did they search that place? It didn't say. It just said because of a search won't ex-executed. But it's like why was the search? Well there must be something.

SPEAKER_00 33:38

Like there must have been there must have been someone from the party said something. They found texts or something in her phone.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Like there has to be some They never found her phone.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

Oh, they never found her.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

Her phone and her keys. Okay, the truck was locked. So the her purse and her backpack were in the in the truck, but the truck was locked. Her keys and her cell phone were gone. With her, apparently. She just had flip-flops on in the clothes she was wearing. Um So it's like, who like, what is the theory here?

SPEAKER_00 34:06

Did they find DNA on the tent or something? In the tent?

SPEAKER_02 34:09

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

But Well it's weird because I guess it wouldn't have been enough evidence to like arrest them on the spot. But enough to make them search the property? I don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 34:19

I don't know anything about the people that own the property either. Like, it's odd. I never had a case where they just w you there's nothing to not mention anything. So I don't know, like, I'm not sure what the theory is. Like, she got was she kidnapped the night of the party or like in the morning when she was getting ready to go, someone came back to and attacked her. Um everyone at the party is saying like they had never even s seen her. It's so odd. Like the Scott family is still offering a hundred thousand dollar reward for any information leading to the arrest and laying up charges. Like there's been no arrest. There's been no as far as we know, nothing they're not announcing it anyway. Maybe they have people of interest, but it's been three years and they still have no they still haven't said haven't mentioned anyone as a person of of interest. Um and they're just saying like anyone with any information is regarding her disappearance is asked to call crime stopper stoppers at 1-800-222-8477 or their SCMP at 778-290-5291. And there's also like the Justice for Maddie website has so much um full of information. Um, it's has the whole timeline. It has all the news media, all the news media stories that were covered, Facebook posts, like it's it's up and running to this day. It has a lot of good information in it. But it's a mystery. Like, I thought like they found her body, which I mean they found her remains, which the family is very like at least that happened, but it's like more confusing than ever now. It's like so, so why that why was she there? I mean, maybe they told the maybe I'm I'm sure maybe the the family is more privy to like the cause of death. I'm sure maybe they know more than we do, but there's been no arrests and no persons of interest, and it's it's still a mystery. So a lot of people think like she was hunted by the serial killer of like the highway tears. She's another missing person who's gone missing along that stretch. And like I said, yeah it's a perfect dumping ground for somebody. It's it's on it's very rough terrain. You wouldn't last that long. Your body wouldn't have lasted out in the woods that long without before bears and stuff get to it, you know. But I don't know if we'll ever find it. I hope if I don't know if I'm gonna find out what happened or it's crazy that they haven't made like they haven't brought in they haven't made arrests or anything. Like uh like those people I don't know. It's just I I'm just dying to know what made them go to that property, you know? And why why the why no one was considered a suspect in that house, you know?

SPEAKER_00 37:01

Yeah. Like there's something missing that we don't know. There's like a missing piece here somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 37:07

Also, like I keep going back to her friend because when I first heard this story, her friend seemed suspicious, and a lot of people think like she is suspicious in it. Um, and just like the piece of the puzzle where like the jewelry wasn't there, like she saw the jewelry at 10 but at 10:30 when the guy came to clean up the jewelry wasn't there.

SPEAKER_01 37:24

So she did she take the jewelry or something, like you know the jewelry thing is so weird because it's like if she never took it off, first of all, why was it off? If someone like forced her out of there, why would they force her to take off her jewelry? Like, and why would she put it why'd she take off jewelry outside uh go to bed?

SPEAKER_02 37:40

Like, would you take you off in the tent?

SPEAKER_01 37:42

I know. That's weird.

SPEAKER_02 37:43

And it's sad because you know, she she had thought like everyone was camping in that night. And she took her friend and told her, like, we're gonna camp there together. And then she she go, I think she went because she went to sleep, not realizing everyone had left her there. And then she wakes up in the morning, and maybe something happened to her in the early mornings, or maybe it wasn't until then following night something happened to her. I don't know. It's it's it's it's it's strange.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

Why would her friend make that part up about the jewelry?

SPEAKER_01 38:10

I know. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know, but yeah, I know why why why say that if it's not true? Where did it go if it is true? Like exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:19

Like Yeah, because that's that's what I was trying to think of. Like, if for su if like if the friend knows more than she's saying.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

But like Yeah. It's like what's the point of that like what would be her motivation for like saying that the jewelry was there and it wasn't? Because everyone else is saying it wasn't. So she would have to have a reason why she thinks it's saying it was there.

unknown 38:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:39

Like more sense. Somebody else could have came along and just like stolen it, right? Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

It's just the jewelry is just a piece of the puzzle that I just Anyway, yeah. So Geordie is of always going to be, I think, linked to this case.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

Okay, so they never found Maddie's phone, but they did they ever check Geordie's phone to see if she like texted Maddie, see, like are you? And then maybe she never got an answer, and then she's just like, well, maybe Maddie's just mad at me because I left her, so she's not gonna answer. So she didn't think it was that suspicious that she wasn't answering her.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

Yeah, and like they never found her phone, but they got her records, cell phone records, and they said like her phone, the last time her phone was on when working was eight o'clock on Saturday morning. But they never like said like that the records show like income and calls from Geordie or outphone calls to Geordie. Um Yeah, I don't know. It's just it's weird. And then and then they say that that that phone call at three in the morning that her mom said was from someone that they knew, they think it was that Fibbs guy who had been like kind of like seeing Maddie. And I don't know. I think the whole Fibbs thing, him going saying he know what happened to Maddie and he had like a history of like a shady history, and the fact that he just passed a polygraph and he was clear instantly is a little weird. And then his separate, like yeah, that's a little weird. Maybe he knew something about it, that's why he was killed. He Yeah, that's kind of what it seems like. Like as soon as they got wind that he was talking about it, they like they got rid of him, you know? But the force that they they found who wasn't responsible for his death, and they they're in jail, and the police said there has been no connection. It's just it's just so it's odd. Like, if she's gonna be another mysterious highway of tears murder that's never solved, you know? It's like what happens in those wards? It's crazy. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

I was gonna say, yeah, it is like the perfect dumping ground. Like, anyone ever been caught for murdering someone on that highway? Like, no, people just go missing and murdered, and like nobody is ever caught.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

And it's even when people talk about it, like people say like she was hunted in those wards. Like, like, and I always I always wonder, is the highway tier? So we know this one guy coding, but is there like multiple serial killers or is this one who got one who's been responsible? Like, it's just it's it's was it someone at the party who came back for her or and did something to her? I mean, please say there was never any evidence from talking to all people, but like there was never they can never determine a link between like there's no one who had a grudge against Maddie, no one who had a motive for wanting to hurt her. So it's just a mystery to this day.

SPEAKER_00 41:11

It's just weird. I don't, but I don't what I don't understand is it's like how do they not know who it was that called her? Like she got a call from someone that she knew, but how do they know that but don't know who it was?

SPEAKER_02 41:20

That's what all my like all Maddie's mom said is like the call that she received was from somebody that not only Maddie knew that but her parents knew as well.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

But did I saw it? Do they know who it is? I don't know. That's that's all it says. That's what's weird. It's like it's weird that they would know that but then not know who it was. So they wouldn't know who it is.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

Maybe they're not allowed to say, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

Because that's what I was thinking when you were saying it. It's like somehow they know that she got that call, but then they don't know who it is.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

Like, I like That's weird.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

But I mean, maybe just yeah, they're just not saying who it is, so they not allowed. But if it was that Fritz guy, like he's dead.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

Yeah, it just says like it is believed to be from the son of a family friend who's camping nearby, though the exact content of the call has not been not been publicly disclosed. And it um and while while it was the last activity on our phone, it was initially described as potentially unimportant to the investigation. I mean it's just odd. I don't know. What it's like you had two we had three different parties happening in the span of that weekend. I mean, the crime scene, I mean, how would you test for evidence? It was like at one point there was like there's like one fifty hundred and fifty people at the the second party.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

There's fifty like how would you even begin to yeah, like even if there was DNA, it'd be like just because there's people everywhere, like drinking, throwing stuff around. Like, yeah. I just I just catch you this crazy party where people are like jumping on tents and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 42:48

Like if the tent if the tent was like flattened, like it could have people's DNA on it, like if they fell into it or jumped on it, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 42:54

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

Yeah. So it's still an ongoing case. They're still they're still looking for answers. It's still I they say they're no closer to be is being solved. So it really is a mystery.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

But how could they not be? They found her body on someone's property who was at the party. How is that no how does that how does how are you no closer?

SPEAKER_01 43:21

Yeah, was it foul play? Maybe they can't tell. Maybe she just went wandered off.

SPEAKER_02 43:26

Yeah, well, they also do say that originally from the beginning, they they they suspected foul play almost immediately.

SPEAKER_01 43:33

I think that seems obvious, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:35

And they said Maddie was an out was an avid outdoors person, and you know, it wasn't like she they just thought like right away, she wasn't the type of person to like not communicate with her family and just leave, and we should have flip flops on and no purse and bag, like she's heading off to the woods to do what. And it's like to let initially like cops pretty much made away did suspect did suspect foul play. Um but yeah, they never cause her death was never. revealed. And I don't know like if it was found like yeah like how big that how big the property was is important, I think. Maybe because it was so massive the the parent the the owners weren't really can like anyone could have dumped. If it's like huge yeah it could be anyone from the party that just dumped it there that happened to be on the property. They didn't know. I don't know. Maybe that but to me that makes sense is why they those guys would never like knock it to the test pat you know to me that would make sense why they were kind of like never but it would at least it would at least um I think be cause for questioning.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

Bringing them in for questioning or some type of I would have to assume they were questioned.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

I would have to assume they must have been yeah yeah but they would just never charged and they were left they would never consider they they had be yeah. Maybe they are considered suspects but no police never said I don't know. There's just who knows it could how they're ever gonna find the person who did it especially when the people at the party say they never seen saw Lady like it's like well she was there you know just weird.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

Maybe it was a whole like whole group and on it together. Yeah. And they're all said oh didn't see her. But that's because that's that's why I asked that's why I asked the question early on of like was it just a bunch of strangers because that would make sense if like they don't nobody knows her. Then they'd be like oh I don't remember her but like obviously if if if it's people who know her they would know if they saw her or not.

SPEAKER_01 45:26

Yeah well it makes sense for the second party right it was just a bunch of random people that showed up and she just happened to still be there they wouldn't necessarily know if she was there or not.

SPEAKER_02 45:35

Yeah yeah but the first party for sure I mean yeah but like um even though during that first party at the end of the night people showing up from that no one Yeah that's true. Like two parties combined kind of but still I I don't know I think something happened to her that first night and I think Saturday night by the time Geordie and the other guys gave the heat in it to clean up something already happened to her. Yeah. I think it's something I mean I don't think they were party like because I don't think they were partying with Maddie in the tent the tent was squished. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 46:02

I don't think they like I don't think unless Maddie Yeah I feel she definitely wasn't in the tent that second time yeah like during the second party she something she was already gone I feel yeah yeah I don't know there's just So Lisa what do you do you think Jordy was involved?

SPEAKER_00 46:17

Like what do you think? I don't think she was I I don't know I think like then maybe more that she knows that she's not saying I don't know I I feel a little bit I was thinking like maybe there was like sketchy shit going on maybe they were all on drugs the people who would gave them the drugs were there. They don't want to mention it because then it could lead back to these people.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking too it was like drug activity and like maybe Geordi sort of maybe has an idea of what happened and she doesn't want to say anything because the same thing happened to her kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

Like people people do say like everyone there like that was Maddie's friends had like before they left they had they had told Maddie you should come with us stay with I just come with us. A lot of them didn't want to leave Maddie there but Maddie wanted to stay like I mean they still left you regardless but like a lot I mean they could just be saying this to like make themselves look better but they said like we ought we we told her to come with us and we all we all told her we were leaving and like begged her to come with us and said no. I mean whether they really did it or not I don't know. But by the end of the night it was just her by herself in a tent and I don't know if she's aware that no one else was there when she was an intent sleeping.

SPEAKER_00 47:22

But it's just terrifying to think about I feel like nobody I feel like they definitely didn't beg her. I feel like that seems like an exaggeration. Yeah no like I mean maybe they asked her and said a couple times they asked her but like begging her?

SPEAKER_02 47:34

I don't know that seems like an exaggeration I mean I just think of George like I don't think I would leave my friend there.

SPEAKER_00 47:39

I I I I we were planning on staying at the tent together like she said she was injured and she left she couldn't be that injured she came back by herself the next day like if you're someone who cares that much and that you're willing to beg her to go with you you would just stay with her if you were that concerned.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

Especially in the woods if you planned you and your friend planned to sleep in the tent together you stay in the tent together I feel like yeah but also it's like you're there like oh we we begged her, we begged her we begged her.

SPEAKER_00 48:05

So obviously you care enough but then you gave up okay yeah yeah like that seems weird to me like if you're obviously someone who cares enough to beg her, you would just stay with her if she wouldn't want to go. Like I don't know. Seems weird.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

It seems like she was kind of taken while she was in her tent sleep. Because her tent her key her truck was unlocked her truck was locked and her car keys were with her so I feel like she had been in the tent with the keys in her phone poly like beside her or maybe her keys were in her pocket.

SPEAKER_01 48:37

I don't know like Yeah or maybe she like left her tent to go to the bathroom or something right in the middle of the night.

SPEAKER_00 48:43

Took her jewelry off?

SPEAKER_01 48:45

Yeah that well that's it.

SPEAKER_02 48:46

I don't know about the jewelry I know the I don't know about the jewelry and it's an in person part like her rings that's never on the ground it's like why put it on the ground?

SPEAKER_01 48:55

I don't know she could have taken everything her like all her jewelry off and like set it on like a blanket or her clothes or something and then someone rifled through her tent and like took her stuff out and it just happened to fall out at the same time right like doesn't necessarily mean she put it outside purposely.

SPEAKER_02 49:09

And someone else saying like someone's saying oh the jewelry wasn't like if it had been there the night of the party it would have got stamped on and stuff but it was in pristine condition when it was found. Like someone else saying that but then other people saying well when we came at 1030 there was no jewelry. It's just it's it's it's it's something that like people fixate on the ring like was the jewelry outside or not like you know and they'll it can't seem to get a straight answer.

SPEAKER_00 49:33

So if I have the so if I have the timeline right so Geordie was there first and said there was jewelry No they came together. Oh no sorry but I'm saying like she went there said there was jewelry first and then the people who came after said it was not there.

SPEAKER_02 49:44

Well according to the timeline that this this case file site put together it said they came around the same time like 10 o'clock Geordie shows up to get Maddie and then I'm then to the Ted the Garrett who's birthday party headband he comes to clean up and he has he saw no jewelry and no one saw throughout the whole day like and then other people showed up for that next party and it was still daylight out and they even said when they were questioned there was no Julie around the tent. Like you know it's just weird.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

Because like I was thinking like if Geordie went there first and said she saw it and like if we assume that's true, then someone else would have had to go to the campsite between that that and the time that the other person came and took it. So why was there someone else at the campsite?

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Which doesn't really give us any answers about that but like Yeah I mean a lot of people like you like a lot of people would always come back the next day they clean up throughout the day like at least they c like they they clean up at themselves which is nice. They would always come back afterwards someday after and get rid of all the cans and bottles, whatever. So it could have been awful people throughout the day come back to get some to clean up or something you know but into her tent and around her tent? I I don't know and it's weird like my mother said when Geordie said like what what when Geordie came the tent was wide open the flat was completely down and all her her blanket pills were to the side. Look well it looked it doesn't look like she had been sleeping in it.

SPEAKER_01 50:59

Like it was all to the side um that's like I understand like if you see an abandoned tent it's like okay someone just left their tent. Like I've seen like people just like get get up and leave their shit and like whatever. They just don't care. But like the car the the car being there like her truck like no one just leaves their truck because they don't want it anymore.

SPEAKER_02 51:18

Yeah and she did and file account she just she didn't go she thought and then since she she goes into the tent Matt Geordie goes into the tent to grab her sleep magnet pillow because like I said she's supposed to sleep there. And that's when she saw everything was pushed to the side and she comes out of the tent with her stuff and zipped off the tent. So that's why when the guy next guy comes he says the tent was closed but she's like figured Maddie was just sleeping in her truck but she never went to look and see if she was I think if she had gone to look and saw she was gone maybe she would have raised the alarm maybe she would be maybe she was afraid Matt maybe she was afraid Maddie would have been pissed at her as I shouldn't say she's like I don't want to I don't want to like deal with that.

SPEAKER_00 51:54

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

The police just and even the police like they're like it's just odd the way Jord it's just some there was Geordie was suspicious to them right off the bat because of that. And she was the last person one of the last people see her alive at the moment she left um anyway so she'll always be I think attached negatively to this case. And she said to this day people still they say she killed her.

SPEAKER_00 52:19

And I also and I also feel like whether or not the uh that guy's severed head like whether or not that happened because he was involved or not it also didn't help the case like maybe people didn't come forward after that because they were afraid that it was connected. Yeah even if it wasn't involved like related but maybe people could think that.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

I think I think we see in lots of cases like um when the investigation is ongoing the police are very tight lipped oh like always tight lipped but not like this.

SPEAKER_00 52:48

Usually the cause of death is revealed usually like there's something well unless they don't know the cause of death like if it's just her bones.

SPEAKER_01 52:57

Yeah but they could say that though they haven't even said that they haven't said they don't know what the cause of death is right they just haven't said anything.

SPEAKER_00 53:04

Yeah and they said no cause of death has ever been revealed so I'm Yeah and that's different than saying they can't determine it.

SPEAKER_01 53:12

They looked and tried to find out and can't determine yeah so that makes it seem like they know but they're just Yeah I feel like they're holding that info in case some if some if somebody knows and it's because they were there and it's not because it's out there.

SPEAKER_00 53:24

Yeah they do that I guess a lot.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

I guess it just depends I guess what what what makes yeah I don't know but her phone was never found and I know like for turkeys were never found. Yeah anyway she had been so close by and people are like well had she been there for the whole 12 years close by when all the searches were being done helicopter and that like was she or was she was she there recent like was she just got moved there and then they found her. Yeah that's what I was thinking. Well yeah they holding her somewhere yeah yeah what are the chances they just move her and then a search for one is executed she was there the whole time. I don't know I remember um go walking in the woods somewhere and I saw her poster before she was found. I mean this sh it's just it was a massive case. Yeah there's so much we don't know I just I can't I hope I can't wait to s hear the update that they like arrested somebody.

SPEAKER_00 54:17

Do you think the guy with the severed head was related to that?

SPEAKER_02 54:21

I don't know. Like the cops don't think so like literally two days after he's clear as the suspect he goes missing and then his severed head is found two weeks later and like it seems like the four suspects that like the four suspects that were charged for that you would think like that would be the first that would be a logical explanation like those four people could have something to do with Madison Scott. They think his death was gang related and they think like a lot of people are gonna come bored because they're scared of the gang, I guess. Um, because he did live the highest l lifestyle I don't know if Maddie like was a part of that or even knew about that or I don't know but it's just like an interesting part of the puzzle that he ends up going missing right after he like it's like her talking about the case and saying to everyone that he knows what happened to Maddie. So I don't know. But it's very strange. Do you think she got like do you think like she got miss she was missing got missing that night or she was there all Saturday as well. No she probably got missing that night. I don't think she would stay there all Saturday she'd probably head home yeah I feel like she definitely went missing that first night yeah and the fact that they all said like oh we never we never saw Maddie but then it's like the timeline the timeline kinda alludes to Maddie like for most of the night Maddie was in her tent. Um so maybe they just didn't think she was there. I don't know it's just it's just odd. It's weird very weird very weird yeah so the so like I said you know there's still a hundred thousand dollar reward for any information leading to the arrest and the laying of charges and anyone with new information regarding her disappearance is asked to call their CMP. At 778-2905291 or you can call anonymously at crime stop us at 1800-222-8477.

SPEAKER_00 56:13

Um that's it that's the case for today crazy you know at least at least they found the body which like gives a little bit of like that closure but it just opens up a whole new can of worms without any answers. So I feel even like it's like and you feel bad because like at the time they probably thought like oh this is it right we're they're gonna find what happened and then it's like still three years later and it's nothing still. So I feel bad.

SPEAKER_02 56:40

Yeah like who knows how long it would take for them to arrest somebody we'll update you if anything happens.

SPEAKER_00 56:47

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SPEAKER_01 57:49

Bye